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Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Posted on: June 3, 2010 2:59 pm
Edited on: June 3, 2010 3:33 pm

Baseball is not inclined to reverse umpire Jim Joyce's call and retroactively award Detroit pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game. At least, not today. And not in the future, according to a baseball official who is not authorized to speak on the record.

What baseball is inclined to do, according to Commissioner Bud Selig, is this:

"Given last night's call and other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and all other related features. Before I announce any decisions, I will consult with all appropriate parties, including our two unions and the Special Committee for On-Field Matters, which consists of field managers, general managers, club owners and presidents.”

So to (instantly) review:

Consult and deliberate, yes.

To order history changed, no.

Selig, in a statement, also congratulated Galarraga on "a remarkable pitching performance", adding that "all of us who love the game appreciate the historic nature of his effort last night."

He also acknowledged the "dignity and class of the entire Detroit Tigers organization", noting that the Tigers "were truly admirable and embodied good sportsmanship of the highest order."

And finally, he said: "As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night's game should have ended differently.  While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed."



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: June 5, 2010 12:09 am

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Rhino = Cardinal Fan = Whiner  let it die Denkingers call was in the 8th inning not the 27th out

Sorry to disappoint you Hawk but I am a true blue Indians fan here dude. Never been a Cardinals fan in all of my 49 years on this planet. OOPS!Embarassed
And, uh, I really don't remember whining about that call EVER!

I only brought up the Cardinals game as an example of the can of worms that changing this call would open up.
I have proven that Selig did in fact make the right call by pointing out all of the other games that would have to be reviewed where the outcome of the game wouldn't change but whether or not a guy got a no-hitter would.
Then throw in all of the batting titles that would have gone to a different player if he had only been called safe on a couple more close plays throughout the season.
The list is endless of different things that could be reviewed if they decided to overturn this call.
For once Selig's logic was impeccable!

Since: Jun 4, 2010
Posted on: June 4, 2010 5:03 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Selig has to go down as the worst commish ever, even when it is obvious he can't  do the right thing! I wonder if one the Brewers pitcher got screwed out of perfect game if the decision would be overturned. You can bet your a** it would!

Since: Feb 6, 2009
Posted on: June 4, 2010 4:46 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Another Cardinal fan who just can't let history go!  Let's review once again why these two events are completely and totally different. 

#1-If you reverse the call in 85, it's only the 1st out of the inning.  The Cardinals made many mistakes that inning that led to the Royals coming back to win.  The dropped foul ball of the bat of Balboni by Jack Clark.  The passed ball by Worrell which allowed the runners to advance.  Even if Denkinger had called Orta out at first, that would only account for 2 outs in the inning, leaving one out unaccounted for.  So, Denkinger's call had nothing to do with the final score.

#2-By reversing Jim Joyce's call it doesn't affect the outcome of the game.  The Tigers still won, the only thing his "blown" call affected was the loss of a perfect game.

#3-Even with all the drama of game 6 in '85, the Cardinals still had the opportunity to win the series in game 7.  But what did they do?  They came out and stunk up the joint.  Final score?  11-0!  How in the world do you come out in the deciding game of the world series and not only give up double digits in runs, but score zero, zilch, nada?  They gave up!  They were a bunch of quitters and deserved to lose and Denkinger had nothing to do with the heart or lack of in the St. Louis Cardinals.

So please, once and for all, please let this go. 

Since: Apr 23, 2010
Posted on: June 4, 2010 3:46 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

The play did not affect the outcome of the game, and can be so easily overturned. Which is what everyone wants... the Tigers, the Indians, the umps, Jason Donald, the fans, the media... This seems like such a no-brainer decision, that I have to believe that Selig doesn't want to do it just so as not to appear "soft".

Since: Sep 16, 2007
Posted on: June 4, 2010 3:23 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

I was going to call Buck Sellout a girl, but I didn't want to insult all the females who have more of a set than he does. I've watched my last baseball game until we get a new commissioner. This is why football is the #1 sport in America. They realize the importance of getting it right, and the importance of the fans. What a shame that baseball has no integrity because of one man.

Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: June 4, 2010 3:10 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Are you kidding, change the call?

How about looking at every game a guy pitched looking for unearned runs for a pitcher who lost the ERA title by 5 points? How about changing an error to a bese hit for a guy who missed the batting title by 2 points?

It was unfortunate for everyone involved but umpiring is done by human beings who are not "perfect". I thought all parties involved were very decent and professional in the aftermath, but to change the ruling on the play is ridiculous.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2010 3:07 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

No way was Selig changing the call.  Replay is only in for HomeRun's.  That's the rules.

Should Bud go back and change every missed ball and strike or close call in the last 20 years?

I don't believe that will happen, so he can't change this call.  Pretty simple if you know the game.

Since: Feb 6, 2009
Posted on: June 4, 2010 3:05 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

I cannot understand why it is so hard for Selig to do the right thing! There is nothing wrong with falling back to the old ' Human Element' arguement, while using it to say ' On such a bang-bang play, he saw one thing, but with the use of modern technology a correction will be made. That would correct a wrong call, while leaving Umpire Joyce enough support to clear him of any damaging mistake-making. Galarraga earned a perfect game . . . he should have one on his resume'. It's time to do the right thing, Selig!

Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: June 4, 2010 1:03 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Rhino = Cardinal Fan = Whiner  let it die Denkingers call was in the 8th inning not the 27th out

Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: June 4, 2010 12:29 pm

Selig does not overturn Joyce's call

Stop already - you are using logic!

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